Bolt arrival and a little surprise

If you read last post, you know I just ordered the keel bolt from McMaster-Carr.  Which is an autoparts supply place mostly, but they have all kinds of stuff.  I ordered on Friday, July 3 and got it Tuesday so that was great. The website doesn’t tell you how much shipping will be when you order, so I didn’t like that part. It was only five dollars, but this is a small order. I’m not sure I would want to order a big shipment and have an unknown fee attached.

I ordered a drill to drill out the old threads, a tap to make new, bigger threads, and a new bolt.

The new bolt is only 3/32 bigger than the previous one, so not much as you can see in this picture of the ends.  The new is on the right. Doesn’t look that much bigger does it?

Old and new bolts

Old and new bolts

Take a look at it from this perspective:

compare old and new keel bolts

compare old and new keel bolts

wow! That was a big surprise when I opened the box. So the new bolt is just a bit bigger than the old one! No wonder it is rated for 5000 pounds!  I may have trouble fitting it in the old spot on the keel. I guess it’s a good thing the keel has already been cut down some in that area.

I also got the drill bit and the tap delivered at the same time.

drill bit, tap & bolt

drill bit, tap & bolt

Looks like it’s time for tapping party. Not sure when I will be able to get to it though 😦

Keel eye bolt materials purchased and on the way

In my previous post describing my eye bolt probable solution, I was unable to find the exact bolt that I had calculated using the drill and tap chart. I went back to the website and this time was able to go right to the sizes I wanted, I’m not sure what was different but I’m happy they worked out. Here’s the drill and tap chart as found on http://www.shender4.com/. Note that the items highlighted in a pinkish color are the sizes provided and recommended by the well-known Catalina parts dealer. You will notice that the drill size is under the aluminum brass and plastics. It seems to me we should be using the drill bit size for iron so that’s what I’m going to do on the new eyebolt. The colors in yellow indicate the eyebolt size and thread and the drill bit size.

Drill and Tap chart

Drill and Tap chart

First the tap

Tap purchase

Tap purchase

then the drill bit

Keel Drill bit purchase

Keel Drill bit purchase

and last, the eyebolt

Keel eye bolt purchase

Keel eye bolt purchase

Just to remind you, the standard bolt they use looks like this, so there will be some differences in the way I hook it to the winch cable.

Standard eyebolt shape

Standard eyebolt shape

keel total purchase

keel total purchase

Total cost at http://www.mcmaster.com/ is 37.46 plus shipping.

Total cost at the well known Catalina parts dealer is
$56.20 – Tap
$14.95 – Cobalt drill bit
$16.00 – Eyebolt
———
$87.15

$tingySailor should be proud of me ;^)

Like a hole in the head

Earlier this week, as I’m wont to do from time to time, I spent a few minutes browsing craigslist.   First, I just went to the “boats” section and looked at all the great boats out there.  I became annoyed with all the powerboats, crab traps, and commercial licenses listed so I narrowed the search to “Sailboat”.  That produced listings for some real beauties.  I also saw a few Catalina 22’s in there ranging in price from $180 to $7,000.   This emboldened me so I narrowed the search even further to “Catalina” and came accross this:

1975 Catalina 22 Sail boat MUST SELL – $900

Who wouldn’t click on a link like this?

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One of the conversations I have been having with Mrs. CapnRehab the last few years goes like this:

Mrs. CapnRehab: When are you going to have the boat ready to sail?
Me: Probably not till next summer.
Mrs. CapnRehab: Oh…

Mrs. CapnRehab: It sure would be nice if you had a boat you could sail now
Me: Sure would.

So as I saw this ad I thought, wow.  I could get this boat – sail it now and fix up the other boat over the winter.  So after a bit of trying to talk myself out of it and failing, I sent this message.

I probably shouldn’t be sending this email, because I need another boat like I need a hole the head.

I have a catalina 22 I’m repairing, but it’s in my garage and wont’ see the water for at least another year, maybe more.
I could buy your boat, but then I’d have two.   HOWEVER, I’d also get to sail this summer in it.
If you’ve already sold the boat, I’m happy for you.  If I buy it I’ll have to explain to my wife why I have 2 boats ..

I also made him a tentative offer for 1/2 what he was listing it for, to make sure he’d say no.  He was ungracious enough to txt me this reply.

reply

reply

So apparently not wanting something is a very effective negotiation technique.

I went out to see her this morning.  Thankfully, other than having an attached keel, it isn’t in any better shape than my boat.

attached keel, so that's what they look like!

attached keel, so that’s what they look like!

I also noticed his keel lifting cable hose was new.  Now that’s putting your money where it will do the most good.  This is a critical piece of the lift assembly.  If this fails, your boat is not a boat anymore.  It’s a sieve.  It also looks like that’s not a marine grade hose.  I think that makes a difference.

new keel hose

new keel hose

One interesting thing about this boat is that is has been filled with foam for flotation.   That sure cuts down on storage.  I’ve seen people rehabbing boats take this out.  I guess if you spring a leak and you don’t have it, boat sinks completely?  Anybody know the scoop on this?

Filled with flotation foam

Filled with flotation foam

Bottom line is that this is just another project boat.   I told him no thanks.

With a big sigh of relief at having sidestepped a bullet, I headed down to the marina.  It was a beautiful sunny day.  Perfect for small boat sailing and lots of boats were going out.

Sailing on the Potomac near Washington DC

Sailing on the Potomac near Washington DC

Can you spot the Washington monument in this picture?  You’ll have to zoom in a bunch to see it.

Hope you have a great Memorial day weekend and don’t forget why we have this holiday.

Obsessing about the keel and getting nowhere

I’m frustrated.  Way back when I bought this keel, I didn’t know squat about what I was doing.  Now I’m facing issues with it, and don’t have a solution to either.

  1. The hole for the pivot has to be drilled out for the bushing, and filled in where the cast iron is worn away.
  2. The metal around the rear eye bolt is worn away and needs to be built out.

You’ve seen the pictures already so I won’t bore you with the same thing again.

I can’t find anyone with cast iron experience to do the repairs, and I have read enough to make me not want to do a hack job and attempt it myself.  I could try to fill it with epoxy and hardener, but there is a lot of stress on these points and I don’t think that will hold.  That leaves me with no options for fixing this keel.

I’m considering going back to craigslist and see if I can find a keel in better shape.  No way I can afford a new one.  I’m stuck.  This sucks.

On a happier note, I spent yesterday visiting a live aboard friend in a marina.  We prowled around the boat yard looking at all the boats “on the hard”.  Found a couple of Catalina 22’s and checked out their keels.

This keel was in bad shape, but the eye bolt looks good.  No telling how bad the corrosion is though.

Rear eye bolt in good condition

Rear eye bolt in good condition

These looked pretty odd.  Not sure how they got here.

wonder how this happened?

wonder how this happened?

Saddest of all, there is some serious neglect going on. This is just one example. The hatchway boards are in the cockpit and the interior is open to the weather.  Sad.

neglect can kill a boat

not going sailing anytime soon

Catalina 22 Keel repair – keel winch cable eye bolt – good enough?

After all the mess with getting the crud off the keel, I awoke one morning last week worrying that I had not bought the correct keel for this boat.  Supposedly, these keels were cast in the sand on a beach in Mexico, and pictures I’ve seen show a “Mexico” stamp on the upper end of the keel.

Mine doesn’t have the stamp.  I finally got around to it tonight to measure my keel against the boat, and it looks like a fit.  On the keel, from the pin hole to the eye bolt is about 52 1/2 inches.  I crawled under the boat and it’s about the same measurement there too.  Whew!

Another concern is that my eye bolt may be too coroded to rely on.  I don’t think so, but just to be sure I asked StingySailor to send me a picture of his.  He’s redoing his keel and pretty soon we’ll see an amazing writeup of the way to do it.  Until then, you’re stuck with me bumbling along and hoping I get it right.

Anyway, here is his eye bolt.

stingy sailor keel eye bolt

stingy sailor keel eye bolt

Here is another view

stingy sailor keel eye bolt after epoxy

stingy sailor keel eye bolt after epoxy

Now, here are some pictures of mine:

CapnRehab's keel eyebolt

CapnRehab’s keel eyebolt

Keel winch cable attachment point

Keel winch cable attachment point

Keel winch cable attachment point

Keel winch cable attachment point

There is no doubt that mine is not as built up as his.  However, I think it’s pretty solid.  I can grab it and yank it around and there is no give.  Unless I hear a major uproar, I’m going to go with it.  What are your thoughts?

Also, I still have the nagging issue of how to put the keel pin into the keel.  I got a bushing from catalina direct, but it doesn’t fit.  I’m going to have to drill out space for it, then braze in the bushing and the missing cast iron that has been worn away.  Here is a picture I posted previously.  Wish me luck.

pivot pin bushing

pivot pin bushing

Catalina 22 – Keel repair continues – needle scaling done

We had a 50 degree sunny Sunday this weekend, and that meant it was time to haul out the keel and start banging away on it.

The first side of the keel came clean pretty easily, but side two was a real pain.  The needle scaler seems no longer able to cut through very effectively, maybe this side simply had not deteriorated as much as the other.

Needle Scaler no go

Needle Scaler no go

While holding the scaler as it barely made an impact I had time to think about it.  It looked like quite an edge between the old material and the keel, so I thought maybe a chisel and sledge hammer (small 4 lb) might work.

Hammer & Chisel

Hammer & Chisel

This did pretty well, but only in some areas, and was quite tiring.  So I went back to using the needle scaler and thinking again.  Then I had a brilliant (to me) idea.  I remembered that somewhere in my tools there was an air chisel.  I’d never thought to use it before because I was told the needle scaler was the way to go.  So I dug around and found it, plugged it in and it was like a hot knife through butter!  Woo hoo!

air chisel

air chisel – the wonder tool

All told it took me about 7 hours.  Now I have  a keel ready for sandblasting, and I’ve found someone that will do it for $130 and hour.  I hope it doesn’t take long!

I thought I might glass in the weldments this weekend, but with a daytime high temp on Sunday of 17F it may be time to stay inside and read a book by the fire.

Stay warm!

Keel repair continues – Fun with a needle scaler

I’m annoyed.  I started this post once already, but it’s not in my drafts, so here goes again.

I’m a bit delayed in progress because I spent some time in plumber purgatory trying to get a shower working again.  Wound up replacing the faucet, and trying to learn how to solder.  I could do all right practicing on my workbench, but once I got to working in the wall it’s a different story.  I finally gave up and used SharkBite connectors and cpvc pipes.  That is definitely NOT the $tingy Sailor way to go, but by that time I didn’t care.  It’s way easier to swab some goop on a plastic pipe and shove them together!  Wonder of wonders, it didn’t leak either.

So, back to the keel.  I started working on it a few weeks ago using this:

Air Needle Scaler

Air Needle Scaler

I got it at harbor freight, and it seems to work OK, but maybe there is a part missing.  The two parts in the picture above are put together, and a giant spring inside keeps it squished together so the needles don’t fall out and it doesn’t fall apart.  But when I use the spring, the needles bind (and one actually broke).  When I don’t use it, the two halves come apart.  It seems like maybe it’s missing a solid metal disk to go between the needles and the spring.  So I have to use it without the spring and hold it together with my hands while I try to shove it against the keel- it’s a pain but it works.

I rolled it outside on a weekend day when it wasn’t freezing, snowing, raining, or blowing hard (for some reason, those kinds of days are rare around here in the winter) and set to work.  I took this just after I started:

Keel Scaling - Before

Keel Scaling – Before

The needle scaler is pneumatic and uses air a bit faster than my compressor can provide it, so I have to pause after a few minutes and let the pressure build back up.  But it did a pretty good job of knocking off the old fiberglass.

There was a lot of dust from the fiberglass and the rust being knocked off, so to be on the safe side I put on a breathing mask.  That mask sure works great!

I finished one side, and then started on the other.  The second side was much tougher.  I barely made any progress on side 2 before I had to stop.  Here is work in progress:

scaling in progress

scaling in progress

I spent about 4 hours total and got 1 side almost completely clear, except for where the wooden support covered a part of the keel.  Once I finish side 2, I’ll hoist it up and reset it and then finish up.

Here is the (nearly) completed side:

Keel after scaling

Keel after scaling

I expect to be able to get out there next weekend.  Although I do have to fix a car hatch that won’t open, replace oxygen sensors on two cars, replace some shocks on my jeep, install a well sediment filter, do my taxes, and ……

and buy some fiberglass and epoxy supplies to fix the keel weldments!

Oh!  By the way, if you’re planning on buying anything from West Marine, this weekend is a good time to do it.  Depending on how much you spend you can get 10, 20 or 50 bucks off.  Check it out at
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